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Mon 06:18:17 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Here is the link for this week's discussion.
https://www.the-iron-gate.com/essays/61

Mon 06:19:03 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . So, why would I choose something like this??? Because I think W/we A/all tend to gforget the little things, particularly when W/we are involved in negotiations and this is a way to look and see just how much is involved.

Mon 06:19:18 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . To forget, not to gforget...

Mon 07:01:00 PM EDT May 24 oliver`````~`````` . . . entering....

Mon 07:01:49 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . enters softly and kneels down beside Mistress for the discussion

Mon 07:02:20 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Entering, seating Myself..* welcome, oliver and tenderheart...I hope you have a chance to look at the link..

Mon 07:02:49 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . smiles* welcome Mistress..oh yes...this is ineed a good topic :)

Mon 07:02:52 PM EDT May 24 oliver`````~`````` . . . yes, LadyGwynethRose, i have looked at the link

Mon 07:04:12 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *chuckling* I am sure F/folk are going to think I have lost what mind I have choosing this topic...BUT...there are points on there that sometimes W/we are inclined to forget in negotiations.

Mon 07:04:35 PM EDT May 24 fairest~one . . . *slipping in to find a place by the wall to sit and lean and listen*

Mon 07:05:10 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . nodding* i seem to remember that at one time there was a BdSm checklist that could be rated and filled out that a Dom/me could give to the prospective sub and then the sub could ask questions and discuss likes/disklikes hard limits with the Dom/me?

Mon 07:05:53 PM EDT May 24 oliver`````~`````` . . . to me such a checklist (and i must say it is very complete) is a useful tool for the Dominant to get an idea where the submissive is "coming from" so to speak

Mon 07:05:54 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . ahhh *LOL* bumps my head

Mon 07:05:55 PM EDT May 24 The_Machinist . . . Takes a seat and liste ns

Mon 07:06:14 PM EDT May 24 Dark Traveler . . . *Slips nearly silently into the Timeout Room*

Mon 07:07:05 PM EDT May 24 oliver`````~`````` . . . it may reveal early on that the two are "not on the same page"....

Mon 07:07:14 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . nods to oliver* i agree with that... it gets inside the subs "headspace" before the actual subspace *laughs and blushes* i wish i would have taken such a quiz like that when i was first very green at the scene .... Mistress helped me to do that quiz and find my likes dislikes and hard limits :)

Mon 07:07:19 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Welcome, TM and fairest one...so...what do Y/you think? I particularly liked the one asking about aspirin intake because that would have a major effect on a scene I am conducting..and again, if it is RT, definitely and if it is VT, words have power..

Mon 07:07:34 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Warm smiles to My Dark Twin...*

Mon 07:08:31 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . *Comes in quietly and just nods to the O/others.*

Mon 07:08:58 PM EDT May 24 Odysseus . . . greetings

Mon 07:09:09 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . noddidng* i think medical background DEFINATLY is a good idea to find out Mistress...especially any things inside like my half metal bits *lol* but also aobut health of heart...blood pressure...things like that that could spike in a scene RT...*nodding*

Mon 07:09:16 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Warm smiles to M'Lords Tenrik and Odysseus..*

Mon 07:09:22 PM EDT May 24 Dark Traveler . . . *Nods respectfully to Odysseus*

Mon 07:09:31 PM EDT May 24 Odysseus . . . The problem with lists.. as for that matter peoples profile, is that its self filled.. and.. people.. tend to be.. ignorant at times on who and what they are.

Mon 07:09:45 PM EDT May 24 Dark Traveler . . . Greetings Lord Tenrik.

Mon 07:09:49 PM EDT May 24 Odysseus . . . Greetings everyone.

Mon 07:10:18 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Ugh, I know, M'Lord O...but I do like the idea of remembering why W/we do what W/we do and how to keep it safe...

Mon 07:10:22 PM EDT May 24 oliver`````~`````` . . . i agree that absolute honesty is essential in such a checklist

Mon 07:10:31 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Greetings LadyGwynethRose.*WS*

Mon 07:10:38 PM EDT May 24 fairest~one . . . i think that any and all question and answer sessions are always a good thing...no matter what form they come in...please forgive my short responses tonight.

Mon 07:10:56 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Greetings Dark Traveler.

Mon 07:11:21 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . I also liked the ideas of asking a submissive about limits such as markings, bruises, etc...which of course should be done but sometimes as I said, We forget those little things..

Mon 07:11:31 PM EDT May 24 Odysseus . . . yea.. I tend to believe (naively?) that its part of My responsibility as a dom.. to be reasonable and responsible.. and probably by definition.... boring... but... those are My rules and I act accordingly.

Mon 07:11:58 PM EDT May 24 The_Machinist . . . Waits to see what the premise is here

Mon 07:12:20 PM EDT May 24 fairest~one . . . Hello E/everyone coming in *little wave*

Mon 07:12:20 PM EDT May 24 oliver`````~`````` . . . as i said, the checklist is very thorough....and that is a good thing

Mon 07:12:25 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . No problems, fairest one..*Warm smiles..* I also liked the one about asking about phobias...if a submissive has claustrophobia, he/she may not want to be hogtied..

Mon 07:12:41 PM EDT May 24 Odysseus . . . I will be in and out.. mostly out. I am being herded by a four legged puppy who insists on being fed and played with.....

Mon 07:12:50 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . nods again softly* i suppose its like the profiles that a person fills out on any vanilla dateing site.. O/one can lie on that...and eventually the trueth of the persons personality does come out eventually BUT with a BdSm profile being wholy honest in ones likes and dislikes keeps SO much safety in the net so to speak and avoids LOTS of hurt physically and mentally and possible lawsuits

Mon 07:13:04 PM EDT May 24 Odysseus . . . Everyone.. .


scroll up.. and..read the link..

Mon 07:13:11 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Ahh, here You are, The_Machinist...the link to tonight's discussion, the ideas thereof..


https://www.the-iron-gate.com/essays/61

Mon 07:13:22 PM EDT May 24 jenica . . . *steps in and settles to the side, reads back with a smile...warm greetings to A/all*

Mon 07:13:58 PM EDT May 24 fairest~one . . . So, there are lots of those types of lists....now that i see it's talking about checklists for likes/dislikes and limits?
i've only done a few....but, they were a LONG time ago before i really knew what anything was.

Mon 07:14:16 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . I agree, M'Lord Odysseus and I Myself despise checklists..BUT...they can come in awfully handy when negotiating with a new submissive or even an old hand at submission if they are new to You.

Mon 07:14:30 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Warm smiles to jenica..*

Mon 07:14:51 PM EDT May 24 Dark Traveler . . . Do You have a question for O/our Hostess TM?

Mon 07:15:05 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . nodding* or about in my case being kept in a box with just your head sticking out or no space at all as some like packageing scenese...or even shrinkwrap for what matter too...yes i can see there are multiple layers of discussion Mistress...and also what one reads an dthinks oh that looks sounds fun and then just goes and does it with someone without setting their personal limits and shutdown saftys

Mon 07:15:19 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . I hate checklists, fairest one..I truly do and I agree with M'Lord Odysseus..it should be My Responsibility as a Dominant to find out these things BUT..I am also human and sometimes I can use a little...refresher???

Mon 07:15:47 PM EDT May 24 oliver`````~`````` . . . the problem with a checklist though, and i would like to hear thoughts on this, is it may be a form of topping from the bottom, or a "do-me" submissive....dictating to the Dominant what is to be, and not to be done....

Mon 07:15:55 PM EDT May 24 jenica . . . *looks at the article*

so the checklist is a sort of negotiation tool as well as an agenda for proper exchange before engaging with O/one?

Mon 07:16:13 PM EDT May 24 The_Machinist . . . Looks to fairest one...it isnt.abku the length of your verbiage it's about what's in your core

Mon 07:17:09 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . I think so, jenica..possibly, oliver, but doesn't the submissive have the power, in the end of things?? Not Topping from the bottom, but the ability to say 'stop, enough, end it now?"

Mon 07:17:15 PM EDT May 24 jenica . . . that's a VERY inclusive list...wow

Mon 07:17:18 PM EDT May 24 Dark Traveler . . . Checklists are actually new and old in the world of BDSM... it's they way they are used that changes and in the last 10 years... abused.

Mon 07:18:05 PM EDT May 24 jenica . . . i could see it being used by the Dominant as a way to incorporate those "yes" marks into reality...

Mon 07:18:13 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Nodding to My Dark Twin..* I agree...

Mon 07:18:17 PM EDT May 24 oliver`````~`````` . . . yes LadyGwynethRose, but only in the most lmited sense...perhaps another way of looking at a checklist is, besides medical issues (or course) just a brief list of limits...and leave the rest to the Dominant

Mon 07:19:05 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . hmmmm tilts my head at the question from oliver...well i think that if you are doing it With you Dom/me as O/one it doesnt seem to be a topping from the bottom..especially if your Dom/me asked you to fill it out and your thoughts...its to me kinda like personality homework....

Mon 07:19:27 PM EDT May 24 The_Machinist . . . I feel my protocols have no instance in the real you speak of

Mon 07:19:33 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . For example...as tenderheart has mentioned...a submissive sees another submissive wrapped in cling film..Saran wrap...and thinks ooooooo goody goody, that's for me!! BUT...the Dominant doesn't ask him/her about any phobias and what if he/she does have claustrophobia? It could be disastrous.

Mon 07:20:18 PM EDT May 24 fairest~one . . . That's true for almost everything said, Machinist *soft laugh* Quality instead of quantity.

Mon 07:21:02 PM EDT May 24 Dark Traveler . . . Can You offer an example T M?

Mon 07:22:16 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . listens closely

Mon 07:23:06 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Nodding as I listen..*

Mon 07:24:06 PM EDT May 24 fairest~one . . . i like that idea too, oliver....too many choices can overwhelm me and outside of a few thing, others can be discussed as things progress.

Mon 07:24:34 PM EDT May 24 oliver`````~`````` . . . to tenderheart's point, the submissive may not know of a particular issue until it happens....then perhaps a safe word is appropriate and both submissive and Dominant have learned something of each other....sometimes you don't know until you have tried something

Mon 07:25:17 PM EDT May 24 fairest~one . . . phobias should definitely be discussed **soft nod*

Mon 07:26:01 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . laughing* just as long as they dont invent "paperwork" for subs fairest one *LOL*

Mon 07:26:13 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . True, oliver...very true indeed..that list is an exceptionally extensive one to be sure..but I did like the idea...and of course as a Dominant, I have My hard limits as well so looking at that list I can think, yeah..no...I won't do that...

Mon 07:26:43 PM EDT May 24 jenica . . . thinking with a list like that, there would be things the submissive or Dominant never heard about...

Mon 07:26:49 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . nods and smiles up at Mistress

Mon 07:27:05 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . I agree, always communicate. O/ones do not know unless asked, then talk about things that bring up that subject.

Mon 07:27:28 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Laughing with jenica...* I know! As I said, it is extensive...ye gods..but it does cover an awful lot of territory that I had either forgotten or not considered..

Mon 07:27:33 PM EDT May 24 Dark Traveler . . . *Dark blue eyest turn to examine tenderheart{GRs alpha}... and makes a note about a distaste for paperwork...*

Mon 07:28:09 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Oh My goodness, M'Lord Tenrik...You mean...*GASP*..COMMUNICATION??? IN A D/s SETTING???

Mon 07:28:31 PM EDT May 24 Dark Traveler . . . *Loves complete lists*

Mon 07:28:34 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Grins at My Dark Twin...* he truly hates paperwork so when I want to really punish him..

Mon 07:28:53 PM EDT May 24 The_Machinist . . . Dark Traveler...i love my life by my own rule...there are certain protocols for events which I can sometimes adhere to...but it's my life...my rules...my protocols...and my one will understand that...its not disrespect...its my life...others adhere to that cause young or new to the ligestyle...i have over 40 years here

Mon 07:29:03 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . windes and hides my ears as Mistress says that dreaded word...

Mon 07:29:10 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . *L* Sure Gwyneth, why not.

Mon 07:29:19 PM EDT May 24 lilith~~~ . . . Peeks out, with a slight smmile. He tends to be very good with that ugly c word of communication.

Mon 07:29:27 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Not only phobias, fairest one, but medical conditions...those can have an enormous impact on the play whether VT or RT..

Mon 07:29:28 PM EDT May 24 jenica . . . it's certainly a great way to open up the possibilities as well as close the door to those hard limits for either the D or the s...

Mon 07:29:52 PM EDT May 24 Dark Traveler . . . *Smiles wickedly at My Dark Twin Sister*...

Mon 07:30:04 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Grins at lilith...*

Mon 07:30:20 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . remembering QUITE clearly the 1 time that You had me write lines Mistress... never EVER forgot that one..."always triple check dishes for any sighns of spots before drying..."

Mon 07:30:46 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Grinning again at My Dark Twin Brother..* I agree, jenica..it is definitely something to consider, particularly when F/folk are beginning negotiations..

Mon 07:31:02 PM EDT May 24 lilith~~~ . . . Not really here tonight and dips back into shadows. Smiles at Lady Rose as I just had to tease on that one.

Mon 07:31:16 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Eyes twinkling* I remember that as well, tenderheart and I won't hesitate to do it again if need be..

Mon 07:31:45 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Grins and waves to lilith as she dips back into the shadows*

Mon 07:31:50 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . gulps and blushes* oh i have no doubt at all Mistress

Mon 07:31:51 PM EDT May 24 oliver`````~`````` . . . of course medical issues should always be disclosed and discussed.....

Mon 07:31:55 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . *Grins at lilith.* you know you enjoy that C word with Me.

Mon 07:32:18 PM EDT May 24 fairest~one . . . Sorry for the late reply....what kind of paperwork, tenderheart?

Mon 07:32:57 PM EDT May 24 jenica . . . ~hears the call of RT and quietly departs~

thank You, LadyGwynethRose for hosting an interesting topic...

Mon 07:33:31 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . I agree, oliver...and phobias and hard limits on B/both S/sides of that C/coin...I have often said I may bend a hard limit slightly, but I won't break it..

Mon 07:33:42 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . laughs and grins at fairest one* all types of paperwork fairest one...but lines are TRUELLY the ones Mistress knows get into my head after repetition but that i abhore doing paperwork *loL*

Mon 07:33:57 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Be well, jenica, and safe journeys to you...*warm smiles and waves*

Mon 07:34:11 PM EDT May 24 oliver`````~`````` . . . smiles, some limits are meant to be bent

Mon 07:34:33 PM EDT May 24 fairest~one . . . i saw your post about lines tenderheart *soft laugh*

Mon 07:34:45 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Repetition is always good t learn tenderheart.

Mon 07:34:49 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Sometimes We Dominants do come up with interesting punishments...it would do Me no good to spank tenderheart because he likes spanking...but paperwork???????? Hehehehhehehehehehehehehehehheheh,,,,

Mon 07:35:30 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . smiles* nodding again* i know that You have helped me past several phobia Mistress *grins*

Mon 07:35:33 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . And I have, oliver, and I will continue to do so..*eyes twinkling again*

Mon 07:35:37 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . *L* We can be a sneaky bunch at times Gwyneth.

Mon 07:35:54 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . needles comes to My mind, tenderheart...you have gotten over your fear of needles..

Mon 07:36:05 PM EDT May 24 oliver`````~`````` . . . smiles...of that i have no doubt LadyGwynethRose

Mon 07:36:17 PM EDT May 24 The_Machinist . . . No onentells my sub or slave what I is expected...she listens to me...she knows what is expected...there will be no confusion....thats where events get fucked up

Mon 07:36:49 PM EDT May 24 Dark Traveler . . . I don't like to think of Us as sneaky. Cleverly Wicked perhaps.

Mon 07:37:10 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . laughing grinning up at Mistress again*

Mon 07:37:10 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Blinks* Who US, M'Lord Tenrik??? Surely You jest...*grinning hugely*

Mon 07:37:16 PM EDT May 24 lilith~~~ . . . Ohhhhhhh drools in want. Needles so not a punishmmemnt for me. Then really back to shadow land due to rt stuff.

Mon 07:37:24 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . laughing* i was just typing that out Mistress

Mon 07:37:39 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . *Nods* That is a better description Dark Traveler.

Mon 07:38:14 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . But like most R/relationships, the D/s ones evolve and change and sometimes it helps to revisit the checklist or to communicate that just to make sure that O/one is still on the same page..

Mon 07:38:23 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . grins* that i have indeed Mistress..*laughs* You no longer have to hold my hand so to speak when i have to go near one *lol*

Mon 07:38:34 PM EDT May 24 The_Machinist . . . Come here fairest one...grins and smiles

Mon 07:38:45 PM EDT May 24 Dark Traveler . . . Ar You suggesting that Your submissive does not change over time in her needs The_Machinist?

Mon 07:41:13 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . So...Y/you have been with Y/yours for a while...maybe more than a few years...do Y/you think that Y/you should revisit a checklist to make sure that Y/you are on the same page?

Mon 07:41:42 PM EDT May 24 The_Machinist . . . Dark Traveler everyone changes but she is only alowesmd to change if told to do so as prooerty

Mon 07:41:55 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . yes shiney pointy objects used to absolutely terrify me and were indeed on my hard limit when i met Mistress online first time... but now... Shes put it into my softer limits *lol* She works wonders

Mon 07:41:59 PM EDT May 24 fairest~one . . . No thank You, Machinist....i'm fine over here for the moment *little nod with a smile* and You know that subissives' needs change over time as well as Dominants' needs, so those things are discussed throughout the relationship.

Mon 07:42:47 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . I think so Gwyneth. I helps to keep abreast of things and to make sure B/both are on the same path still.

Mon 07:43:00 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Nodding to fairest one..* yes, it evolves and changes..

Mon 07:43:35 PM EDT May 24 oliver`````~`````` . . . perhaps in an ongoing relationship a checklist of things that are meeting needs and needs that are not being met

Mon 07:43:50 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . smiles* i think that that can indeed vary depending on the RT and VT situations Mistress...life rarely stays static... but even if things change that B/bond is always there and a check in now and then is'nt necessicarily a bad thing...

Mon 07:44:06 PM EDT May 24 The_Machinist . . . LGR there no reason to evavuatate if someomeine is on the same page..but I am talking property...not sub

Mon 07:45:06 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Mmm...but TM, I realize that slaves don't 'have rights' but surely they get sick and need care? Or maybe need something from You??

Mon 07:45:38 PM EDT May 24 The_Machinist . . . Well I think maybe it's time ileave...enjoy

Mon 07:45:55 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Be well TM..safe travels..

Mon 07:46:18 PM EDT May 24 fairest~one . . . Master/slave and Dominant/submissive are different in a lot of ways, that's true. I think that there are always going to need to be discussions about things that change over years, though.

Mon 07:46:30 PM EDT May 24 Tala** . . . *leans against the wall and reads to catch up*

Mon 07:47:09 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . makes my little checklist...fur..yep still like...brushes..yep still there... etc..yep *LOL* finishes the EASY form paperwork for Mistress

Mon 07:47:43 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Welcome, Tala..I agree, fairest one...things change, people change, people age...new problems come into existence...

Mon 07:48:20 PM EDT May 24 oliver`````~`````` . . . the only thing that is constant in life is change....an old saying, but very true

Mon 07:49:39 PM EDT May 24 Tala** . . . Hello Lady Gwyneth Rose....*s*

Mon 07:49:48 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . After all, W/we won't be the same P/people in a year or six months from now so why wouldn't W/we want to check in and make sure all is well?

Mon 07:50:17 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . nodding* i t hink thats why a good foundation ...even though it might seem a lenghty project to actually do the..ugh..forms *lol* it really does help stand up and helps keep the foundation strong along with talking so that B/both really know E/eachothers ticks and tocks as my GranMa used to say *lol*

Mon 07:51:26 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Grins at tenderheart.* now, now, pet..you will have E/everyone thinking you really detest paperwork..*eyes crinkling into a smile*

Mon 07:52:39 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . laughing...naaaa nothing towards that Mistress *laughing again* i'm a humble little paperslut who LOVES to be chained to drawers full of W2 forms

Mon 07:53:00 PM EDT May 24 the lone wolf . . . *sets down while still managing rt little ones*

Mon 07:54:00 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Welcome, lone wolf..of course you are, tenderheart..but I digress...does A/anyone have any other comments to make on checklists and making sure that Y/you are on the same page as Y/you evolve?

Mon 07:54:28 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . smiles up at Mistress and listens in fully again

Mon 07:54:56 PM EDT May 24 the lone wolf . . . *is the pup, bows in greet to A/all*

Mon 07:55:40 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . smiles* hello and welcome lone wolf :)

Mon 07:56:43 PM EDT May 24 oliver`````~`````` . . . thank You for an interesting and thought provoking topic LadyGwynethRose

Mon 07:57:40 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . looks up again to Mistress* always a great topic Mistress...brings out my brain cells from hibernation

Mon 07:57:44 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Anytime, oliver..anytime...W/we will be here a while longer...I would like to hear O/other's thoughts on the topic if I may..

Mon 07:59:00 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . I do thank You for that list though Gwyneth. It is good to have it handy.

Mon 07:59:51 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . I truly hate checklists, Tenrik, but I DO value their ability to help Me to remember what I need to do..

Mon 07:59:55 PM EDT May 24 Dark Traveler . . . *Reviewing the list again*... I've never seen such a complete list. Very impressive.

Mon 08:00:21 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . bright warm smile*

Mon 08:00:47 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . I so agree and it is a good list. Much on there for Me to even think about as well.

Mon 08:01:38 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Well, I think this subject has rather petered out..does A/anyone have anything T/they would like to ask or discuss tonight?

Mon 08:01:50 PM EDT May 24 fairest~one . . . RT is grabbing me **slips out with wave* Thank You Lady Rose and A/all!

Mon 08:04:12 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Be well, fairest one...safe journeys to you...

Mon 08:04:34 PM EDT May 24 oliver`````~`````` . . . excellent discussion...heading back to the Dungeon

Mon 08:05:01 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Be well, oliver..safe journeys to you...thank you both for coming tonight..

Mon 08:06:59 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . smiles* thank You Mistress for getting A/all of U/us to keep thinking :)

Mon 08:07:29 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . I try, tenderheart...at least I try to do so..

Mon 08:07:59 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Can't think of anything Gwyneth, but I do thank You for another good Time Out.*WS*

Mon 08:10:04 PM EDT May 24 Dark Traveler . . . *Turns to LadyGwynethRose* This has been a very informative evening Mistress. Thank You for Your being O/our Host.

Mon 08:10:14 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Thank You Tenrik for attending! Always interesting to hear Your thoughts...*Warm smiles*

Mon 08:11:10 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Thank You, My Dear Dark Twin Brother...of course the Room shall remain open for a bit but ...I hope to see E/everyone next week as well...*warm smiles, rising, waving, taking tenderheart's collar and W/we are gone..*

Mon 08:11:31 PM EDT May 24 tenderheart{GRs alpha} . . . smiles as Mistresses leads me out...

Mon 08:11:55 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Time Out is always worth attending Gwyneth. And thank You for being a gracious host and listening.*WS*

Mon 08:12:37 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Grins* I am always worried I am talking too much, Tenrik...I try to not interfere with the discussion..

Mon 08:12:47 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Take care Gwyneth and tenderheart.*WS* Til next week My F/friends.

Mon 08:13:26 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Nah, You dont talk too much, You keep the room going Gwyneth.

Mon 08:16:21 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Laughing* I think tenderheart might agree with You, Tenrik...he knows how I love to chat..

Mon 08:17:33 PM EDT May 24 the lone wolf . . . im just sorry i wasnt able to really be a part this time, hopefully next week... but im a slave to four tiny demanding masters *chuckles*

Mon 08:18:02 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . I may try to change the time to a slightly later hour, wolf..would that help???

Mon 08:18:18 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Say starting at 8?

Mon 08:19:07 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Its all good though Gwyneth, I get My moments as well.

Mon 08:19:56 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Grins at Tenrik* I have been known to keep going and going and going..like the Energizer Bunny...*Laughing*

Mon 08:20:58 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . *peeks, seeing ive missed it*

Mon 08:21:33 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Hi, chrissa! We are still here, but the topic kind of petered out so...W/we are just chatting at the moment..

Mon 08:21:56 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . *Laughs* I can do that as well Gwyneth, besides at Our age that energizer bunny is about the best We have now .

Mon 08:22:47 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . it’s ok, im not a big fan of checklists anyway... *giggles* but i understand it’s another tool to pull from, for sure!

Mon 08:22:52 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Hello chrissa.*S*

Oh, and a big hello to the pup and his great Masters also.

Mon 08:23:15 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *BURSTING into laughter* You are so right, Tenrik! Although I still do swing an awfully mean cat o nine...*grinning again*

Mon 08:23:47 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . I hate checklists, chrissa, but they are a helpful little thing to keep U/us on track or to check in, aren't they?

Mon 08:24:08 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . hello to You Both *dips a proper curtsy*

Mon 08:24:39 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . *L* I can still give some great spankings. At least We do bring something to the "table".

Mon 08:25:26 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . they can be, Lady Gwyneth Rose... but Master and i really just..talk. W/we don’t use something that formal. i send Him my fantasies and daydreams.. He uses me as He wishes, incorporating all kinds of play... and it’s beautiful and erotic and sensual and lovely. And W/we haven’t used a checklist at all.

Mon 08:27:08 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . I seldom have used one,chrissa, but I have used one a time or two before, particularly when it is a new submissive...I did like the bit about asking if they had taken aspirin within a day or two of scening...good idea to ask..

Mon 08:27:39 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . yeah, that’s very true! i do like the medical aspect... or a mental health check.

Mon 08:27:40 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Hmmm..or We bring something to the Bench, Tenrik...*Laughing again..* I do like Benches..

Mon 08:28:26 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . *LOL* Yes, benches are very good to use Gwyneth.

Mon 08:28:27 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . I also liked the bit about asking about phobias, chrissa..I have actually seen someone freak the f out during a scene when he/she didn't really want to do what they THOUGHT they wanted to do..

Mon 08:29:39 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Makes it easier on Us, Tenrik...We don't have to swing as far!!

Mon 08:30:31 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . *groans* that’s the thing, sometimes we don’t know what we want until we experience it... i didn’t know hard limits until i was faced with something myself, etc... so checklists might be helpful in a general sense at first, but i would’ve also put limits on things back in the day that i couldn’t live without now... and without being exposed to it, how would i know?

Mon 08:30:33 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Yes, that is very true Gwyneth, and easier on the ole arms.

Mon 08:32:31 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . That's true, chrissa..I did use the example that I actually saw happen...a submissive was being mummified and another submissive said ooooooo goody i sooo wanna do that! Now...the Dominant SHOULD have asked her if she was claustrophobic...He did not...she was fine when her legs were mummified with Saran wrap but when it got to her chest...and arms...yeah...it was very bad...she freaked OUT.

Mon 08:33:02 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . That is very true chrissa. Even I've looked into things to do with one that I once thought not something I would even do to one.

Mon 08:33:09 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . God/dess knows I need all the help I can get, Tenrik...*heheheh*

Mon 08:34:46 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . *nodding* well, it was the responsibility of both parties... the submissive to mention that phobia, the Dominant to ask. so it was a lesson learned on both sides, yes? *smiles* that’s what safe words are for, but i do feel sorry because those kind of experiences are so terrifying and draining.

i have a fear of drowning, so submerging me in water - while it could be a sexy form of breath play, id never be able to handle well.

Mon 08:35:54 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Exactly, chrissa...and you are right, T/they B/both should have said something but the submissive was being...well..kind of a doormat, really...not a true submissive...and the Dominant was experienced enough to KNOW better...but..it went to hell fast..

Mon 08:36:21 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . I never moved faster with a pair of scissors in My life..and I helped with the aftercare as well..

Mon 08:36:22 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . *nose wrinkle* yikes, sounds like a mess on all fronts!

Mon 08:37:19 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Good thing You were there Gwyneth. Not the best of pairings either.

Mon 08:38:22 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Interesting chrissa. I also have that same fear as well.

Mon 08:38:52 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . well W/we are twins, Tenrik... *big smile*

Mon 08:38:58 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . It was pretty awful...that poor female was a mess...and the Dominant I believe was banned for a period of 3 months from the Dungeon..

Mon 08:39:17 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . *L* That W/we are chrissa.

Mon 08:39:55 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . i will say that i practice D/s online only... i mean, it transfers to r/t but He is across the globe in Europe - so the play isn’t physical... which probably tends to need less formality

Mon 08:41:19 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Thats good that He was banned. I can just picture her though. But yes, questions should always be at the forefront and just in case of things like that.

Mon 08:43:33 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . That's good, chrissa...I used to tell F/folk that online is as real as W/we make it and I always warned F/folk that if T/they were meeting in reality to be safe...words have power and words can be kind or cruel.

Mon 08:44:15 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . I also do online D/s also, but I do interview as if I may really meet them one day. *L* Who knows, it could happen.

Mon 08:44:24 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . I agree, Tenrik,but like I said, He should have known better in the first place...she was a newbie...and was rather traumatized afterwards...however, as I recall, she did come back after a month or so..

Mon 08:44:41 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Oh it does happen, Tenrik...believe Me...I know...

Mon 08:45:35 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Yes, He really should have known better and should have thought it out better in His head first.

Mon 08:46:09 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . i’d do anything to meet Him. *laughing softly* but yes, it is still very real

Mon 08:46:37 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . ohhhh she was probably in subfrenzy too... poor girl

Mon 08:46:42 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . *Nods* Oh I do know Gwyneth, I do know. I got with exy here and even went to AZ for another one.

Mon 08:46:58 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Keep hoping, chrissa...My wolf lived in England..I was in the US...it does happen...*warm smiles*

Mon 08:47:44 PM EDT May 24 the lone wolf . . . apologies little mister stole me away

Mon 08:47:51 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . she was, chrissa...she was absolutely frantic...I am good at aftercare so I did help...and You are right, Tenrik...I have met M/many from the Castle...in reality I mean...

Mon 08:48:16 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Not a problem, lone wolf...W/we have just been discussing 'things that F/folk should probably not do'...

Mon 08:48:38 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Welcome back pup.*WS*

Mon 08:49:55 PM EDT May 24 the lone wolf . . . *sets by chrissa* thank You, LadyGwynethRose

Mon 08:50:09 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . welcome back pup!

Lady Gwyneth Rose, glad You were there to help her...

Mon 08:50:46 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Please, pup...call Me Lady Rose or just Lady GR would be fine...*warm smile* I know how long My name is..

Mon 08:51:28 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . you as well, chrissa... please don't kill your fingers on My account...I was ususally used by the DM's for aftercare, chrissa, because of My medical background and because I listened to the submissives..

Mon 08:52:15 PM EDT May 24 the lone wolf . . . much appreciated Lady Rose

Mon 08:53:01 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . thank You so much, Lady Rose *dips her face* perhaps another topic could be aftercare??

Mon 08:53:57 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . I think that is a splendid idea, chrissa...sometimes I think that W/we think that aftercare is all coddling and lovey dovey whereas some submissives just want to catch their breath...good idea!

Mon 08:54:03 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . I agree with chrissa. That cold be a great topic.

Mon 08:54:31 PM EDT May 24 the lone wolf . . . im all about aftercare *grins*

Mon 08:55:01 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . *L* Its unanimous then.

Mon 08:55:03 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . yes, i wholly agree... it depends for me, certain scenes i don’t even want to be touched at all.

Mon 08:55:37 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Yes, it really is so much more than just coddling.

Mon 08:56:11 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . That is a good one chrissa.

Mon 08:56:23 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . the most important thing for me is to know ive been pleasing and enjoyable... everything else is a bonus. *nods and smiles*

Mon 08:57:19 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Grinning* I think next week's topic is already in progress but I could suggest it for the following week.

Mon 08:58:07 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Yes, please do it for the week after the next one Gwyneth.

Mon 08:58:08 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . oooo im curious about next week, Lady Rose *wiggle*

Mon 08:59:36 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . *Grinning again* you will have to wait, chrissa...and I think I will do, Tenrik...seriously, there are so many different ways of aftercare and I think W/we tend to get stuck on just one or two.

Mon 09:00:43 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . i love learning about more ways to do things!

Mon 09:01:10 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Thank You Gwyneth. Yes, there are so many different aspects with the after care, and what may work for one may not work with others.

Mon 09:02:07 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . *Smiles to chrissa.* Yep, you are My twin. Its always good to learn as much as possible.

Mon 09:03:19 PM EDT May 24 LadyGwynethRose . . . Well, F/folks..I really do have to go now...so be well, E/everyone and thank Y/you so MUCH for attending tonight! *Rising, blowing kisses and gone*

Mon 09:04:19 PM EDT May 24 ^chrissa^ . . . thanks for staying and chatting! Have a blessed night!

Mon 09:05:26 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Yes, I should get going s well. I thank Y/you all for a great night.*WS*

Mon 09:06:17 PM EDT May 24 Tenrik . . . Take care Gwyneth. And thank You so much again.*WS*

Mon 09:06:59 PM EDT May 24 the lone wolf . . . nini! be well

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